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		<title>By: Michael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2009 01:31:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first time checking this out ,very cool.</description>
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		<title>By: 40% off at Dance Party Massacre until Sunday :: Hide Your Arms</title>
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		<dc:creator>40% off at Dance Party Massacre until Sunday :: Hide Your Arms</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] so we&#8217;re clear, the (much discussed) prices in the store are not the sale prices, the discount is automatically applied when you put [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:24:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since what was meant to be an informative, helpful article about costs of t-shirt printing has seemed to create more bad than good, I have removed it from our blog. The intent in which it was written is not showing through to some, and for that I apologize. It was not written as a means to justify, or defend, our price tag, but I did use DPM as an example so I can see how it could come across that way.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;How this then became an argument of EZ vs DPM was a surprise. In my opinion, Kyle&#039;s post seemed grossly vindictive (plus way dramatic), and it was disheartening to see others back him up. And while he is surely knowledgeable and had points to make, not everything Kyle said is accurate. Things like stating AA shirts cost $17 online was interpreted as us saying we pay $17 to buy a blank. This may just be how it looked to him, but it was very weird to see such things turned around over and over.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;ve learned a good lesson in discrepancy from this, and about being scrutinized on the internet. I&#039;ll take into account what people have said and move on. I still stand by Dance Party Massacre as something I am proud of, and I am thankful for the people who enjoy what we&#039;re doing.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;You can always shoot me an e-mail at &lt;a href=&quot;http://alex%28at%29dancepartymassacre.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;alex(at)dancepartymassacre.com&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since what was meant to be an informative, helpful article about costs of t-shirt printing has seemed to create more bad than good, I have removed it from our blog. The intent in which it was written is not showing through to some, and for that I apologize. It was not written as a means to justify, or defend, our price tag, but I did use DPM as an example so I can see how it could come across that way.</p>
<p>How this then became an argument of EZ vs DPM was a surprise. In my opinion, Kyle&#39;s post seemed grossly vindictive (plus way dramatic), and it was disheartening to see others back him up. And while he is surely knowledgeable and had points to make, not everything Kyle said is accurate. Things like stating AA shirts cost $17 online was interpreted as us saying we pay $17 to buy a blank. This may just be how it looked to him, but it was very weird to see such things turned around over and over.</p>
<p>I&#39;ve learned a good lesson in discrepancy from this, and about being scrutinized on the internet. I&#39;ll take into account what people have said and move on. I still stand by Dance Party Massacre as something I am proud of, and I am thankful for the people who enjoy what we&#39;re doing.</p>
<p>You can always shoot me an e-mail at <a href="http://alex%28at%29dancepartymassacre.com" rel="nofollow">alex(at)dancepartymassacre.com</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree with Kyle on this, especially as I&#039;m a new brand as well and I&#039;ve seen a lot of these situations. There&#039;s a lot of cost in starting up a company and getting your ducks in a row with promotional stuff, but you can&#039;t take that out on the customer. You have to put a bit of love into the brand to build a following of loyal friends and customers, and by explaining your prices like this to people you might be shooting yourself in the foot.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Try to do as many of these things as you can yourself, that&#039;ll help with the costs. Good luck, I wouldn&#039;t wish this kind of press on anyone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree with Kyle on this, especially as I&#39;m a new brand as well and I&#39;ve seen a lot of these situations. There&#39;s a lot of cost in starting up a company and getting your ducks in a row with promotional stuff, but you can&#39;t take that out on the customer. You have to put a bit of love into the brand to build a following of loyal friends and customers, and by explaining your prices like this to people you might be shooting yourself in the foot.</p>
<p>Try to do as many of these things as you can yourself, that&#39;ll help with the costs. Good luck, I wouldn&#39;t wish this kind of press on anyone.</p>
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		<title>By: margatefam</title>
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		<dc:creator>margatefam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s with calling people retarded?  that is so off and make you look like a total tool.</description>
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		<title>By: fletchy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fletchy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 10:39:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s an interesting topic, and after reading the original DPM post, well there was no need to rip them apart. Sure some of it is a bit debatable, but they never said this is how/why we charge $28, so i&#039;d say its been taken out of context, instead they said &quot;maybe this helped some of you people thinking of starting something similar.&quot; and &quot;&quot;give you customers an idea really what goes into a tee you buy&quot;. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;So in that context they are valid costs that eat into the profitability of a clothing line (price reductions to clear unpopular stock costs the apparel industry over $300bn a year). I don&#039;t see that this post was an attempt to justify their prices, which I personally wouldn&#039;t say are high at $28. What they choose to charge is up to them (as you say at the end Kyle), every customer has a different price sensitivity and so it depends who they are targeting and how well they can position their brand to appeal to that customer. Personally I have no interest in the theming of their shirts, no interest whether they were $10 or $40. Reducing their prices wouldn&#039;t help. But I would pay $40 for a t-shirt. The right t-shirt.  How much someone is willing to pay for something, has little to nothing to do with what it cost to make it, value is in the eye of the beholder, just ask people that pay $500 for a Louis Vuitton handbag.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#39;s an interesting topic, and after reading the original DPM post, well there was no need to rip them apart. Sure some of it is a bit debatable, but they never said this is how/why we charge $28, so i&#39;d say its been taken out of context, instead they said &#8220;maybe this helped some of you people thinking of starting something similar.&#8221; and &#8220;&#8221;give you customers an idea really what goes into a tee you buy&#8221;. </p>
<p>So in that context they are valid costs that eat into the profitability of a clothing line (price reductions to clear unpopular stock costs the apparel industry over $300bn a year). I don&#39;t see that this post was an attempt to justify their prices, which I personally wouldn&#39;t say are high at $28. What they choose to charge is up to them (as you say at the end Kyle), every customer has a different price sensitivity and so it depends who they are targeting and how well they can position their brand to appeal to that customer. Personally I have no interest in the theming of their shirts, no interest whether they were $10 or $40. Reducing their prices wouldn&#39;t help. But I would pay $40 for a t-shirt. The right t-shirt.  How much someone is willing to pay for something, has little to nothing to do with what it cost to make it, value is in the eye of the beholder, just ask people that pay $500 for a Louis Vuitton handbag.</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:54:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Went to a party here in a &#039;big city&#039; and these two dudes had a small print set up right in the club. They screened one-color designs on AA (I think) and were selling &#039;em for $40 a pop! They had a line of women dropping mad cash for &#039;em too. Obviously these club goers were not DPM or EZ&#039;s demographic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Went to a party here in a &#39;big city&#39; and these two dudes had a small print set up right in the club. They screened one-color designs on AA (I think) and were selling &#39;em for $40 a pop! They had a line of women dropping mad cash for &#39;em too. Obviously these club goers were not DPM or EZ&#39;s demographic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I COMPLETELY agree with Kyle&#039;s points. Dance Party Massacre is a brand that&#039;s just starting out. They don&#039;t have a following. In my opinion only established brands can get away with those price points.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I COMPLETELY agree with Kyle&#39;s points. Dance Party Massacre is a brand that&#39;s just starting out. They don&#39;t have a following. In my opinion only established brands can get away with those price points.</p>
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		<title>By: kyle crawford</title>
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		<dc:creator>kyle crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if you want some too dude we can do this. just because you&#039;re a stand up guys, doesnt mean i have to be. you know when you&#039;re around your gf&#039;s parents and you have to refrain from saying curse words, well you can continue with that mentality and I&#039;ll continue to be as completely honest and blunt as I want to be.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;crude or not, it&#039;s the truth, don&#039;t like it, don&#039;t read it. nothing you say is going to change my views or the way I talk or present myself, but let&#039;s be completely honest, is it really hurting my business? Doesn&#039;t look like it</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if you want some too dude we can do this. just because you&#39;re a stand up guys, doesnt mean i have to be. you know when you&#39;re around your gf&#39;s parents and you have to refrain from saying curse words, well you can continue with that mentality and I&#39;ll continue to be as completely honest and blunt as I want to be.</p>
<p>crude or not, it&#39;s the truth, don&#39;t like it, don&#39;t read it. nothing you say is going to change my views or the way I talk or present myself, but let&#39;s be completely honest, is it really hurting my business? Doesn&#39;t look like it</p>
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		<title>By: David SEIBEI</title>
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		<dc:creator>David SEIBEI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 20:59:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just to clarify, those cut and sew hoodies you sold for ten dollars are pretty rad - BUT you reduced the price on them to ten dollars when you were down to a handful of X-Smalls, right? Your prices are always super reasonable, but that ten dollar hoodie thing wasn&#039;t some everyday occurrence. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Like I said before, you make a lot of good points, but I really could&#039;ve done without all the cute little jabs and jokes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just to clarify, those cut and sew hoodies you sold for ten dollars are pretty rad &#8211; BUT you reduced the price on them to ten dollars when you were down to a handful of X-Smalls, right? Your prices are always super reasonable, but that ten dollar hoodie thing wasn&#39;t some everyday occurrence. </p>
<p>Like I said before, you make a lot of good points, but I really could&#39;ve done without all the cute little jabs and jokes.</p>
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